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國球旗:爭取連任既總統係有天時、地利、人和之利,
但奧巴馬喺民調都無優勢,
縱使成功連任都要檢討一下原因。
....... (2012-11-05 10:51) 

呢幾年,美國個情況,你搵邊個做都死(同香港一樣……)。


我覺得奧巴馬已經係算係做得唔錯的了。


YFF 已死!!這是 Fantrax 的新時代!!
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ODIN:其實仲有一個更重要的係中共十八大會議∼
但相信都係冇咩人理∼∼ (2012-11-05 10:56) 

呢個我真係連討論既興趣都無………


YFF 已死!!這是 Fantrax 的新時代!!
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freezefox:一定唔會一面倒,因為羅姆尼幾差都好,D鐵票都唔會改變的。共和黨既票只會比番共和黨。
但我唔認為羅姆尼有絲亳勝算。 (2012-11-05 11:27) 

選舉人票係一種好吊詭既制度,
當年戈爾全國贏布殊 50 萬票,
因為布殊贏左佛羅里達,
反而咁樣贏左大選,
所以爭取民意,不如爭取某幾個大倉。

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國球旗:選舉人票係一種好吊詭既制度,
當年戈爾全國贏布殊 50 萬票,
因為布殊贏左佛羅里達,
反而咁樣贏左大選,
....... (2012-11-05 11:39) 

我有印象。


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ODIN:雖然我都覺得係∼
但我地接觸的media,大部分都偏向obama∼
我有d懷疑羅姆尼的選情被低估∼
....... (2012-11-05 10:46) 

呢的時候最好去研究下一的客觀數據,例如賠率。有錢銀瓜葛之下,就會減少偏袒成份。

現時兩人的平均勝出賠率大約為︰

obama 1.24
romney 4.1

轉換成機會率,兩人勝出的機會率為︰

obama 77%
romney 23%
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火鳳凰:呢的時候最好去研究下一的客觀數據,例如賠率。有錢銀瓜葛之下,就會減少偏袒成份。
現時兩人的平均勝出賠率大約為︰
....... (2012-11-05 11:45) 



之不過,第一場辯論前個個都話羅姆尼輸∼
但最後...
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國球旗:選舉人票係一種好吊詭既制度,
當年戈爾全國贏布殊 50 萬票,
因為布殊贏左佛羅里達,
反而咁樣贏左大選,
....... (2012-11-05 11:39) 

所以兩位都極力爭取so-called搖擺州份的票∼
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老老豆豆∼
好多人話美國民主,但來來去去都係民主共和兩黨玩晒∼
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火鳳凰:呢的時候最好去研究下一的客觀數據,例如賠率。有錢銀瓜葛之下,就會減少偏袒成份。
現時兩人的平均勝出賠率大約為︰
....... (2012-11-05 11:45) 

所以我話,我睇唔到羅姆尼有絲亳勝算………


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國球旗:
選舉人票係一種好吊詭既制度,
當年戈爾全國贏布殊 50 萬票,
因為布殊贏左佛羅里達,
反而咁樣贏左大選,
.......




睇返現時的選舉人票分佈︰

obama 應該可以穩奪 261票,romney 則有 235票。

係 270票就可以奪得總統寶座之下,obama 現時勝算當然甚高,而 romney 就差不多需要係五個搖擺州份贏最少四個,甚至贏晒先有機會。

附現時八個兵家所爭之州份︰


Here’s how we size up all eight states at the moment:

COLORADO (Pre-convention RealClearPolitics polling average on Aug. 26: Obama 47.6%, Romney 46.0%; current average: Obama 48.2%, Romney 47.7%) — We’ve been hearing that Romney is slightly up in Colorado, but it’s still a toss-up. Colorado is probably more important to Romney than Obama in the Electoral College, although if Obama loses Ohio and Colorado he probably won’t win. TOSS-UP

FLORIDA (Pre-convention average: Obama, Romney tied at 46.3%; current average: Romney 49.1%, Obama 47.9%) — We’ve thought for weeks that Romney held the upper hand in Florida, but note that Romney spent his Wednesday in the Sunshine State; if it were truly locked up for him, there would be other, better places for him to go at campaign’s end. LEANS REPUBLICAN

IOWA (Pre-convention average: Obama 45.3%, Romney 44.3%; current average: Obama 47.8%, Romney 46.5%) — Newspaper endorsements typically aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, but sometimes — when they are unpredictable — they can have a measurable effect. That’s the way we feel about the Des Moines Register’s splashy endorsement of Mitt Romney on Sunday, its first GOP presidential pick since Richard Nixon in 1972. The endorsement — and, more importantly, the paucity of public polling in the state — lead us to call Iowa a TOSS-UP.

NEVADA (Pre-convention average: Obama 49.0%, Romney 44.8%; Current average: Obama 50.0%, Romney 47.6%) — We know a lot about Nevada because of its robust early voting. Swingy Washoe County (Reno) is about even in early voting, and the Democrats are building a big advantage in Clark County (Las Vegas). That should be enough to cancel out the remaining conservative parts of the state. Despite enthusiastic backing for Romney among the state’s Mormon population, we continue to believe Obama leads here. LEANS DEMOCRATIC

NEW HAMPSHIRE (Pre-convention average: Obama 48.3%, Romney 44.8%; Current average: Obama 48.7%, Romney 47.7%) — With its small bounty of electoral votes, the Granite State could mean nothing — or everything — on Election Day. (Had Al Gore won it in 2000, he would have been president, whatever happened in Florida.) Democrats are confident of holding it, but we see it as too close to call. TOSS-UP

OHIO (Pre-convention average: Obama 46.8%, Romney 45.2%; Current average: Obama 48.9%, Romney 46.6%) — Gov. John Kasich (R) proclaimed the other day that Mitt Romney would carry the Buckeye State, but the weight of polling evidence and many on-the-ground reports we have received suggest otherwise. In all likelihood Obama retains a lead of a point or two — though our sources differ as to whether the president’s edge is sturdy or fragile. LEANS DEMOCRATIC

VIRGINIA (Pre-convention average: Obama 47.3%, Romney 46.7%; Current average Romney 47.9%, Obama 47.4%) — We essentially feel the same way about Virginia that we feel about Ohio, except in reverse: here, Romney probably has a very small lead — though Obama’s Ohio polling lead is more robust than Romney’s Virginia advantage. Once again, our best, frankest sources are emphatic but in opposite directions. Republicans insist Romney will win Virginia, and Democrats appear almost equally sure in the other direction. TOSS-UP

WISCONSIN (Pre-convention average: Obama 48.2%, Romney 46.8%; Current average: Obama 49.8%, Romney 45.8%) — Obama got a big polling boost Wednesday when the respected Marquette Law School Poll found Obama up eight points in Wisconsin, up from one point just two weeks ago. (Wednesday was, in general, a good polling day for the president.) However, some Republicans seem to think that Wisconsin might be a better target than Ohio, so we want to see what the GOP throws into the Badger State at the end. TOSS-UP

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/president-too-close-to-call-democrats-hold-senate-edge-prior-to-final-weekend/








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freezefox:呢個我真係連討論既興趣都無……… (2012-11-05 11:33) 

btw...香港成日講國民教育∼∼
內地人呢排日日都講十八大∼∼
香港連理都唔想理∼∼
唉∼∼
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火鳳凰:睇返現時的選舉人票分佈︰
[圖片]
....... (2012-11-05 12:02) 

其實有八成選票係定哂,你爭唔爭都係你既。所謂成日話奧巴馬同羅娒尼選票好接近,其實有D 誤導。鬼咩,一開波本來就係我佔四成,你佔四成,然後去爭個兩成。咁就梗係成日都只係有幾個百分點既相距啦。

但實際上,個兩成先係關鍵。而個兩成,就算個個州我都係嬴你少少,但嚴格上我已經係全勝了。


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火鳳凰:睇返現時的選舉人票分佈︰
[圖片]
....... (2012-11-05 12:02) 

唔知點解出極都出唔到張圖……

大家可以 CLICK 去睇下︰

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/content/images/KDK2012110101-map1(big).png
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之不過,第一場辯論前個個都話羅姆尼輸∼
但最後... (2012-11-05 11:50) 

辯論前連爭既機會都無嘛,而家都仲有些微渺茫機會……