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[其他杯賽]足總盃第4圈,利物浦主場2:3不敵西布朗出局,熱刺作客1:1賽和英乙紐波特郡,需要重賽 [復制鏈接]

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Liverpool 2-3 West Brom: VAR dominates chaotic clash as Albion reach FA Cup fifth round
By Gerard Brand
Last Updated: 27/01/18 10:07pm



West Brom dumped Liverpool out of the FA Cup after their chaotic 3-2 win at Anfield in the fourth round was dominated by VAR calls.

Liverpool took the lead through Roberto Firmino's deft lob from a rebound (6), but West Brom were level just a minute later as Jay Rodriguez slammed home from 18 yards (7).

Rodriguez made it three goals in six minutes, finishing off from close range from Kieran Gibbs' cross (11), before VAR intervened twice in quick succession.

Craig Dawson's header was correctly ruled out for a Gareth Barry offside at one end, before Liverpool were awarded a penalty for Grzegorz Krychowiak's tug on Mo Salah, with Craig Pawson going to the pitch-side VAR screen for the first time in English football. Firmino stepped up, but hit the bar with his penalty.

It was 3-1 to West Brom in first-half stoppage time as Joel Matip inadvertently turned home Dawson's angled effort (45+2), and though Salah halved the deficit with a low finish with 12 minutes remaining, Liverpool could not force a replay.

The draw for the fifth round will be made on Monday evening.

Liverpool opened the scoring after just six minutes through Firmino, who produced a delightful chip over Ben Foster from 20 yards after the West Brom goalkeeper had kept out Salah's low effort.

But West Brom were instantly level as Rodriguez found a yard just inside the box from Chris Brunt's square pass and produced a fierce effort into the top right corner.

Rodriguez's second added to a frenzied opening at Anfield, tapping home from eight yards from Gibbs' centre as West Brom easily split open the Liverpool defence twice again.

Liverpool's defensive frailties were highlighted once more just minutes later as Dawson beat Firmino to the ball and headed home from a corner, but referee Pawson went to VAR and correctly found that Barry was in an offside position and interfering with Simon Mignolet.

There was further VAR controversy in the other box as Krychowiak tugged Salah's shirt in the penalty area, with Pawson going to the VAR pitch-side screen to give a penalty. Three minutes after the original call, Firmino hit the bar from the spot.

Liverpool's defence then allowed Dawson to turn an effort goalwards before the break, with Matip making a hash of his clearance as the ball fell into the far corner. Pawson went to VAR again after an offside hint, but correctly allowed the goal to stand.

Jurgen Klopp made a triple change on 65 minutes in an attempt to save the game, bringing on Danny Ings, Jordan Henderson and James Milner, and it was Ings who was soon forcing Foster into a good save with an effort from 15 yards.

Salah made it 3-2 with a fine low finish after Firmino had laid the ball off from 15 yards to the right of the penalty area, but Liverpool could not make their pressure tell in the closing stages.

http://www.skysports.com/football/liverpool-vs-w-brom/report/387625 c

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【now.com體育】利物浦在周六英足盃第4圈主場擺陣,而且先開紀錄,但爆冷不敵西布朗2:3出局;早前打破榜首曼城英超不敗身後,接連不敵聯賽包尾2支球隊。

利物浦由羅拔圖法明奴、穆罕默德沙拿、沙迪奧文尼合組進攻線,新加盟的華基爾雲迪積克及祖爾麥迪比負責中路防守。西布朗收起了射手荷西朗頓,以積洛迪古斯(Jay Rodriguez)任單箭頭。

開賽僅5分鐘,沙拿施射被門將賓科士打擋出後,法明奴成功chip射補中;紅軍強陣出擊加上早早領先,滿以為可以輕鬆取勝。不過,西布朗在60秒後閃電追平,積洛迪古斯在於禁區邊射成1:1。

11分鐘,中場基祖華克擺脫了安利簡恩後,分球到邊線,左閘基蘭基比斯傳中,積洛迪古斯射入,西布朗反超前。這支在英超排尾2的球隊強勢未止,可是中堅奇治戴臣的入球被視像裁判系統推翻。

其後,中場積基李華摩亞在禁區侵犯沙拿,球證直指12碼,法明奴射高波中楣彈出。大難不死,西布朗於半場前拉開比數至3:1,又是基祖華克在中場策動,今次傳予奇治戴臣傳中,逼得祖爾麥迪比擺烏龍。

雖然在下半場佔有超過6成控球權,但利物浦創造出來的攻門機會不多。60分鐘,紅軍領隊高普一口氣作出全部3個調動,以前鋒丹尼艾格斯、中場佐敦軒達臣、占士米拿入替。

利物浦換人後終於在78分鐘有收穫,法明奴接應傳中球,順勢交予沙拿,後者在10碼點射入。紅軍其後圍攻西布朗,但多次發炮都未能多入1球,最終以2:3落敗,宣告出局。

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卡尼建功保和局 熱刺客和乙組仔需重賽



周六英足盃第4圈,熱刺作客派出大量副選出戰英乙紐波特郡,禾姆、洛蘭迪、祖安科夫等上陣機會較少的球員獲得機會,而哈利卡尼、艾歷迪亞以及維頓漢這三名常規正選仍有列陣。熱刺球員如雲耶馬以及艾歷迪亞都明顯缺態,多次被紐郡球員逼失,更於上半場先失一球。幸哈利卡尼於下半場建功才力保熱刺顏面,兩軍賽和1:1需要重賽,熱刺將回師溫布萊迎接紐郡的挑戰。

上半場戰況令人大跌眼鏡,紐波特郡於中前場不斷逼搶,令熱刺後防屢屢犯錯,中場更經常斷纜。上半場僅6分鐘,紐郡隊長拉巴迪截得雲耶馬的腳下皮球,並於25碼左右起腳試射,被熱刺門將禾姆接實。戰至24分鐘,紐郡左路角球攻勢,穆沙施素高欲頂走皮球卻差點擺烏龍,幸禾姆反應快將皮球接住。面對紐郡一浪接一浪的攻勢,熱刺於38分鐘終於失守,紐郡中場韋莫特禁區右路出高波吊入禁區,伏兵遠柱的前鋒阿文力壓捷比亞頂入,領先1:0完半場
熱刺上半場有5次射門但零中龍,相反紐郡7射3中,把握力更高。下半場熱刺換入孫興民以及迪利阿里試圖改變形勢,確實令球隊的攻勢更加流暢。56分鐘捷比亞右路高波傳中,哈利卡尼近門頭槌高出,但球證指他犯規在先。67分鐘迪利阿里禁區頂附近傳予右路入楔的孫興民熨射,被紐郡門將祖德爾撲走。83分鐘熱刺終於追成平手,迪利阿里左路開角球,孫興民虎尾腳二傳予遠柱無人看管的哈利卡尼,後者輕鬆篤入追成1:1完場。

https://hk.sports.appledaily.com/sports/realtime/article/20180128/57762871

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Incident 1 - Dawson goal ruled out

After Craig Dawson beat Roberto Firmino to the ball and headed home from a corner, referee Craig Pawson went to VAR and correctly found that Gareth Barry was in an offside position.

Barry did make an attempt to play the ball, and was interfering with play in front of goalkeeper Simon Mignolet, and the correct decision was given just over a minute after the original decision. West Brom players still surrounded Pawson in protest after the decision was made.

Consensus: correct decision.

Incident 2 - Liverpool awarded penalty

Grzegorz Krychowiak tugged Mo Salah's shirt in the penalty area just moments later, though Pawson had originally waved play on. Play was brought back for VAR, however, which prompted Pawson to go to the pitch-side VAR screen for the first time in English football history.

With three minutes taken in total to make the decision, the penalty was correctly awarded, with Salah sure to get to the ball but for the hand on his shirt from the West Brom midfielder. Firmino stepped up, but hit the bar.

Consensus: correct decision




Incident 3 - West Brom third goal stands

Pawson went to VAR once more as West Brom's third goal hit the net via a touch from Joel Matip after Dawson had turned the ball goalwards.

They looked at two offside decisions in the lead up to the ball falling in at the far post, and found that West Brom were level both times, though the process did take nearly two minutes. Four minutes were added on as stoppage time in total in the first half.

Consensus: correct decision.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/13864/11225783/how-var-took-over-at-anfield-three-big-calls-made-as-west-brom-beat-liverpool



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YFF 已死!!這是 Fantrax 的新時代!!
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Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool in the FA Cup last 3 years:

2015/16: LFC lose to West Ham in 4th Round

2016/17: LFC lose to Wolves in 4th Round

2017/18: LFC lose to West Brom in 4th Round
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《VAR大混亂:如何改善VAR的應用?》

VAR在足總盃開始初步登陸英格蘭,昨晚利物浦對西布朗,比賽期間多次使用到VAR來改變重要決定,其中有利有弊,這裡且來探討如何能改善應用。(這裡牽涉多個細微動作,建議邊看文章邊看重播)

第一件VAR干涉的重要事件是西布朗角球入球被VAR改判無效。初時以為是吹罰門前西布朗球員阻礙米勞列出迎,誰知竟是越位。重播顯示那位球員的確越位了些許,但那位球員在皮球經過的電光火石之際(少於0.5秒),嘗試干預比賽的動作是少之又少,這情況下應否判他「在越位位置干預比賽」的犯規值得斟酌。

但主球證Pawson在聽取VAR意見後,以為是直接非黑即白的越位問題,便直接改判入球無效,其實這情況下Pawson更應自行到場邊看電視重播判斷,因為這球雖有越位,但球員有否干預比賽亦應由主球證親自判斷,此為VAR應改善之處:不要以為越位便一定可由VAR自行判斷。

第二件VAR事件是沙拉在禁區跌倒,主球證親自看VAR後,從沒有吹罰改判十二碼。這球看直播時很意外Pawson會改判十二碼,因為利華摩亞雖有拉人動作,但一來從慢鏡可以看到沙拉誇大了反應,事實上拉人動作未至於令沙拉如此跌倒,二來皮球落點與事發地點有距離,而且沙拉向前跑但皮球其時向邊飛。

當然你有權說「有拉便要吹」,但若果以此標準,恐怕每一球英超的角球與間接自由球亦必須VAR改判十二碼了,每場的比數可能是20:17的羽毛球比數。VAR是要嚴懲便一個身體接觸,從而鼓勵球員一被接觸便跌倒搏VAR嗎?這裡要想想VAR的重播速度,會否過度聚焦在「有沒有接觸/動作」之上。

這個事件第二個問題是VAR需時太久了。單單沙拉的十二碼判罰,Pawson便用了3分鐘53秒,從一開始只聽取VAR的意見,到搞了一兩分鐘才跑到場邊電視自己看,這個過程是否可以更快呢?例如設定機制及條件,何時需要讓主球證自行看電視,不用一拖再拖,球員亦陷於迷失及憤怒之間。而柏祖賽後抱怨這個停頓令基比斯在比賽繼續不久便拉傷亦有理據,這樣攤凍球賽的確令球員無所適從。

另一問題是上半場不只有沙拉十二碼這個VAR停頓,還有前述的角球事件及其後西布朗3:1入球有否越位等,加上西布朗兩個受傷及換人,還有4個入球慶祝及其餘皮球出界等,單單上半場的補時其實便理應高達補10-15分鐘,但不知是否電視轉播商的壓力,最後上半場只補了4分鐘,可見VAR的速度必須大幅提升,否則應考慮VAR介入時大鐘停頓,或每隊限制VAR上訴次數等規例。

最後還有兩件事件,分別是伊雲斯頂入及沙拉追成2:3。伊雲斯那球明顯越位幾丈遠(所有前線的西布朗球員全部嚴重越位),但Pawson在旁證舉旗後,仍然徵求VAR確認是否真有其事,那麼旁證還有角色嗎?如果凡是皮球入網都無現旁證而徵詢VAR,那旁證基本上就不需要存在了,而另一角度以後要拖時間大可大幅越位踢球入網,然後等VAR幫你拖時間。

沙拉追成2:3也是類似問題,那球的過程中明顯完全沒犯規,但Pawson仍要暫停比賽聽取VAR意見,真的需要嗎?這亦顯示Pawson已被VAR搞得信心全失,反正我肉眼都經常判錯了,那就每次都依賴VAR就不會犯錯吧。那麼還需要主球證嗎?主球證大還是VAR大?現在的情況是主球證是最大,但VAR才是最正確,令主球證就像被VAR控制的玩偶傀儡般,只是VAR的傳聲筒,未來主球證應該坐在電視房嗎?

最後是節奏和觀賞性的問題。即使這場比賽有5個入球而且結果爆冷,但相信有看直播的球迷亦感覺到,這場比賽看得一點也不過癮,因為VAR三時五時就斬斷了比賽,而且每次入球或失球後不再是慶祝或失望,而是大家學會一起看著劃著四方框手勢的球證,等待VAR的最終判決,而哪怕最後真的是入球合法,那興奮或失望已是沒太大感覺。

當然,VAR的引入,的確令執法更加準確,相信能大大減少英超那些盲公球證的亂吹亂罰,但賽會必須改善VAR的應用及執行程序,以平衡比賽的流暢刺激及公平公正。

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《VAR大混亂:如何改善VAR的應用?》
VAR在足總盃開始初步登陸英格蘭,昨晚利物浦對西布朗,比賽期間多次使用到VAR來改變重要決定,其中有利有弊,這裡且來探討如何能改善應用。(這裡牽涉多個細微動作,建議邊看文章邊看重播)
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我可唔可以理解為英超球証/賽會太垃圾
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《VAR大混亂:如何改善VAR的應用?》
VAR在足總盃開始初步登陸英格蘭,昨晚利物浦對西布朗,比賽期間多次使用到VAR來改變重要決定,其中有利有弊,這裡且來探討如何能改善應用。(這裡牽涉多個細微動作,建議邊看文章邊看重播)
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真係停好耐, 到第二第三已經覺得「喂你又要睇重播?!」, 好似好拖慢比賽.

今次黎講, 頭兩事件睇完都係覺得50-50, 可判可唔判
Miss you James and Bobby! Thank you for the years of great memories!!
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做白老鼠係最慘.......