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[英超]Phil Jones 選擇曼聯既原因 [復制鏈接]

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引用第37樓科高2011-06-11 20:51發表的“”:
其實睇下點睇啦,一個真好球員而又長遠用得著,20+都唔貴
但另一角度,放眼現金球壇,如果唔係比人抬價,其實20M又已經可以買到國際級很有經驗的球員回來了
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上漲得痴線

RONALDO 去皇馬果時都係 21M
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引用第41樓Gabriel2011-06-12 01:11發表的“”:
英人萬歲 [表情]

仲要有HG
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引用第45樓chun14242011-06-12 01:35發表的“”:
上漲得痴線 [表情] [表情] [表情]
RONALDO 去皇馬果時都係 21M [表情]


唔好話舒利亞當年離開布力般都只係15m…?
李奧都30m啦…
當年去Leeds都18m…
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引用第47樓小伊子2011-06-12 01:50發表的“”:
唔好話舒利亞當年離開布力般都只係15m…? [表情]
李奧都30m啦…
當年去Leeds都18m…

大老,shearer咩級數?? 拎P.Jones同當年既Rio同佢比??

老舒是英倫神級前鋒,繼連尼加後最出色的一位
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只看該作者 49  發表于: 2011-06-12
同埋仲有一樣野,而家係十年八載前咩?

通縮、歐債危機、好多國家聯賽衰落,您話10年8載前就話,而家動輒成2,000萬簽個青年球員
我點都覺得太貴~~就算證明都將來係值,呢一刻都係覺貴

當然,認為太貴唔等於唔認同同用咁既價購入

再諗一諗VDV係幾錢買返來~
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引用第48樓科高2011-06-12 02:50發表的“”:
大老,shearer咩級數?? 拎P.Jones同當年既Rio同佢比??
老舒是英倫神級前鋒,繼連尼加後最出色的一位


咁都係搵Ronaldo同佢比je

引用第49樓科高2011-06-12 02:55發表的“”:
同埋仲有一樣野,而家係十年八載前咩?

通縮、歐債危機、好多國家聯賽衰落,您話10年8載前就話,而家動輒成2,000萬簽個青年球員
我點都覺得太貴~~就算證明都將來係值,呢一刻都係覺貴

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十年八載之前足球肯定冇而家咁搵錢!
經濟問題好明顯唔係影響轉會市場既好大因素。
呢點每一年轉會情況趨勢都表現到出黎。

搵VDV比?搵一個球隊棄將同一個重心比係咪仲冇得比?
數緊既Rio Shearer都係球隊重心,而而家Phil Jones亦都係。
比都係搵D球隊地位相似黎比丫
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只看該作者 51  發表于: 2011-06-12
講起老舒...好掛住佢
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只看該作者 52  發表于: 2011-06-12
Jones dispute ramped up by Rovers

Blackburn Rovers are conducting an internal investigation into how Manchester United became aware of Phil Jones' £16 million so-called 'get-out clause' to leave the club.

ESPNsoccernet have been told by Rovers sources of a belief that Manchester United must have had sight of the contract, or indeed been told of the contract, to be so specific about what is contained it in the contract.

Rovers' advisers believe the clause is open to interpretation and the club's Indian owners do not wish to sell the player, and will not sell at the price being offered.

Venky's accept that Jones was entitled to inform the club that he wished to talk to Manchester United, or any club, who are prepared to evoke the clause, but Blackburn's lawyers dispute that the clause means that legally the club are obliged to sell their player for the set price.

Blackburn are contesting whether the clause that triggers the ability for Jones to talk to a club that offers £16 million also means that they are must accept the fee, or that they are entitled to ask for more money if other clubs are prepared to pay more. Blackburn want more for Jones and if United don't offer more, will refuse to sell.

As Jones has rejected overtures from Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs, Blackburn know they will struggle to provoke an auction as rival bidders believe they are wasting their time on a players whose heart is set on a move to Old Trafford.

That has left United and Rovers in a stand-off position, which insiders inform ESPNsoccernet could be resolved on Monday with some kind of compromise offer from Manchester United.

If United continue to refuse to up their price then the issue might even result in Blackburn asking the Premier League how private and confidential contractual details were obtained by Manchester United. ESPNsoccernet believes that if United increased their offer to £20 million with some bolt-on additions then Blackburn will relinquish their legal arguments and avoid a Premier League complaint.

The Jones transfer has become one of the most messy deals of this summer as Blackburn contest the validity of get-out clauses in players' contracts.

It will also mean that the football authorities will need to look closely at the strength of get-out clauses and how confidential they can remain, or whether they have outlasted their usefulness, if they can produce disputes such as that has mushroomed between United and Blackburn.

ESPNsoccernet broke the story on Thursday that the Jones move to Manchester United was halted over over a dispute about the players' valuation.

Yet, for 24 hours the media continued to report that the deal was going through without any hitch as both clubs kept the dispute firmly under wraps. The player has already passed his medical and agreed personal terms with United, which normally happens after the clubs have agreed a fee. Premier League rules state that a player can only talk to a club and go through with the transfer procedures once a fee is agreed.

Manchester United would argue the fee was already set, but Blackburn are vehemently contesting that interpretation's validity.



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只看該作者 53  發表于: 2011-06-12
既然你自己 set 得 buy-out clause 係 16m,就預左所有人都用得呢個價買架啦……

而家因為 confidential 問題壓價,仲要加到 20m+,咁最初你份 contract 簽黎究竟有咩意思?
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只看該作者 54  發表于: 2011-06-12
引用第50樓小伊子2011-06-12 02:55發表的“”:
十年八載之前足球肯定冇而家咁搵錢!
經濟問題好明顯唔係影響轉會市場既好大因素。
呢點每一年轉會情況趨勢都表現到出黎。
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數緊既Rio Shearer都係球隊重心,而而家Phil Jones亦都係。

Phil Jones是否球隊重心,您比我清楚
但而家講既既係轉會市場既金額比較
將老舒既1500萬同P.Jones既1600萬,甚至20m+比~~比較既出發點唔會話布力般應該為佢主力離隊收幾多錢,而係買家付出幾多錢

我在買家既角度,理得您係唔係球會主力,但老舒已是當年英倫第一射手,價格是1500萬;現在jones是什麼級數? 卻1600萬以上....唔計貨幣升值,好容易比較到吧

而家轉會市場好明顯比以前萎縮啦,只看看意甲幾多隊波有財政危機已可知一二

十年八載前好多中小型球會都閒閒地拎到1000萬磅買一名球員,而家真係少好多了,係某d球會可以有好多金錢去購買

至於頭先我講vdv果個問題,您話呢個係球會棄將,個焦點同我講既野唔同
我正正就係想講,而家d年青球員個價成日比人抬到高晒(大球會目標就更加);但反過來說,有d已經o係國際球壇證明左佢實力既人,當打之年都可以係幾百萬磅有交易就知(大家都知,vdv來之前唔係因為佢表現差左,只係皇馬無機會發揮)

您果個係賣家角度,我認同 (正如MANU的Bebe,有人覺得200萬磅賣走都唔可惜),但而家我係從買家角度去講呢~ 我話當年Shearer都係話用1500萬買佢而唔係話賣佢

我明白您作為布布fans,隊中一個未來之星可能要轉走既心態,亦相信您會比我清楚P.Jones既實力
我從來無講過布力般開價是開天殺價,亦無質疑P.Jones能力。我亦相信,以缺乏防中既曼聯來說,P.Jones可以加強即時戰力,仲可以同Smalling組成曼聯10年中堅,呢千幾萬磅既投資我會欣慰

不過宏觀來說,我覺得個價錢唔算平,仲要如果過20m,o係曼聯近年既資金情況,就覺得太貴(當然,如果呢度budget多左唔影響購買其他球員,咁都好d)

順帶一提,我都係sun既fans,我都唔想見到Jordan去利記(甚至yff更影響我用佢既意慾),但我都認為現階段來說,2000萬磅是有點兒over左(不過呢個唔係等於我唔認同佢既實力,正如P.Jones之於您一樣 )
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只看該作者 55  發表于: 2011-06-12
引用第53樓KEO2011-06-12 08:43發表的“”:
既然你自己 set 得 buy-out clause 係 16m,就預左所有人都用得呢個價買架啦……
而家因為 confidential 問題壓價,仲要加到 20m+,咁最初你份 contract 簽黎究竟有咩意思? [表情] [表情]

blackburn絕對係暗示緊可能有tapping up嘅情況....
佢地又唔係缺錢, 唔急住賣, 所以如果拗到原來係違規斟人, 咁咪可以留得住jones, 或者起碼賣個更好嘅價..... 印度佬黎玩下野..... 勇氣可嘉~~
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引用第56樓智者2011-06-12 11:17發表的“”:
老實講,嫌貴鏝城會幫你買左佢
demend and supply 架姐[表情]

曼城買現成, 邊得閒幫你培養
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只看該作者 59  發表于: 2011-06-12
引用第53樓KEO2011-06-12 08:43發表的“”:
既然你自己 set 得 buy-out clause 係 16m,就預左所有人都用得呢個價買架啦……
而家因為 confidential 問題壓價,仲要加到 20m+,咁最初你份 contract 簽黎究竟有咩意思? [表情] [表情]