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只看樓主 倒序閱讀 使用道具 樓主   發表于: 2017-01-17

Liverpool may defy Fifa and play Joel Matip in FA Cup

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/16/liverpool-may-defy-fifa-play-joel-matip-fa-cup/


Liverpool are considering challenging Fifa and playing Joel Matip against Plymouth Argyle in the FA Cup.

Selecting Matip will force the governing body to adjudicate on whether the defender is eligible to play for his club while his former international country, Cameroon, participate in the African Nations Cup.

Liverpool have been left infuriated by Fifa’s refusal to offer guidance on the matter. Fifa have responded by quoting their rules regarding players’ availability, in which it makes it clear if a player is selected by his association he is obliged to accept his selection and he can not play for his club.

As far as Liverpool are concerned, Matip has not been available for Cameroon since September, 2015 when he made it known he no longer wished to be under consideration. That assertion was repeated earlier this season.

Indeed, last season Matip played for his Bundesliga club, Schalke, on November 21, 2015 four days after Cameroon’s World Cup qualifier with Nigeria on November 17, 2015. There was no action taken against his club or any objection lodged to Fifa by Cameroon on that occasion.

Liverpool would like to know what has changed, but have received no information.

Although Matip was not named in the Cameroon squad for the Africa Cup of Nations, Liverpool received no clarification as to whether that means he can play for his club this season in the same way as he did last year.

Fifa’s current stance has done nothing to resolve the impasse.

“We can confirm that Liverpool FC contacted FIFA about the matter,” a FIFA spokesman responded.

“Our services answered by directing the club to the applicable provisions.”

The statement continued: “A player who has been called up by his association for one of its representative teams is, unless otherwise agreed by the relevant association, not entitled to play for the club with which he is registered during the period for which he has been released or should have been released pursuant to the provisions of this annexe, plus an additional period of five days.”

Should Liverpool play Matip in the FA Cup Third Round replay, it is possible they will face sanctions.

“Fifa also indicated that any potential violation of the applicable provisions would need to be investigated by the Fifa Disciplinary Committee,” read the statement.

The decision is now for Liverpool and manager Jurgen Klopp who are feeling increasingly emboldened to select the player.


足總以條例字面解釋回應, 不如唔好講? 就係因為字面講得唔清楚先要問........問Matip上唔上得陣, yes or no. 迴避問題唔答, 仲要加句, 條例就quote咗比你知, 違例罰好重架, 又試下以身試法呀.......


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理論上如果喀麥隆入到決賽, 踼到2月5日, 即係可以缺陣缺到2月11日對熱刺個場先出得
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posouth:理論上如果喀麥隆入到決賽, 踼到2月5日, 即係可以缺陣缺到2月11日對熱刺個場先出得
[表情]  (2017-01-17 10:46) 

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Joel Matip: Liverpool defender could miss six more games

Liverpool could be without defender Joel Matip for a further six games because of confusion over availability.

Matip 'refused to play' for Cameroon after being named in the preliminary squad for the Africa Cup of Nations.
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可能被缺陣6場

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只看該作者 3  發表于: 2017-01-17
原來係因為咁所以對曼聯無得上陣呀?!


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基本上同兩年Ribery單野既翻版

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/france/11080066/Michel-Platini-threatens-retired-Franck-Ribery-with-suspension.html


不過我覺得兩處好唔同, 第一Platini起碼講得清清楚楚, Ribery被招又唔上陣就唔可以為拜仁上陣, 主動釋法. 第二係, 唔理咩原因都好, 結果Ribery都無被徵招入伍, 大家識做, life goes on!
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【now.com體育】利物浦中堅祖爾麥迪比拒為喀麥隆出戰非國盃,風波愈鬧愈大,國際足協發言人確認,已向球會釋法;按照規例,麥迪比或會再缺席紅軍未來6場比賽。

效力利物浦的喀麥隆中堅祖爾麥迪比(Joel Matip),拒絕為國家隊出戰非洲國家盃,但獲國際足協(FIFA)保障的喀麥隆足總早前已表示會保留追究權利。根據FIFA規例,在未得到喀麥隆足總允許的情況下,麥迪比在球隊出局之前,都不可以為紅軍上陣。

事實上,麥迪比對上一次代表喀麥隆出戰已經是2015年9月的事;而他亦聲稱早已退出國家隊。不過,由於目前事情發展含糊不清,紅軍周日賽和曼聯一役,領隊高普亦未敢派他落場,以免橫生枝節。一旦發現紅軍違規,最高刑罰是面臨在聯賽扣分。

FIFA代表確認,球會曾聯絡他們,而他們亦已經清楚釋法;意即只要喀麥隆足總拒絕讓步,而若然球隊又成功躋身2月5日舉行的非國盃決賽,麥迪比將肯定會錯過英足盃第3圈重賽、若晉級的第4圈對狼隊、英聯盃4強次回合和另外3場聯賽賽事——當中包括鬥爭標對手車路士的大戰——最快要到2月11日主場鬥熱刺一仗,他才可再披上紅軍戰衣比賽。

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羅力亞:【now.com體育】利物浦中堅祖爾麥迪比拒為喀麥隆出戰非國盃,風波愈鬧愈大,國際足協發言人確認,已向球會釋法;按照規例,麥迪比或會再缺席紅軍未來6場比賽。
效力利物浦的喀麥隆中堅祖爾麥迪比(Joel Matip),拒絕為國家隊出戰非洲國家盃,但獲國際足協(FIFA)保障的喀麥隆足 .. (2017-01-18 02:51) 

當理性講唔掂, 唯有做D唔理性既野.

............................日日夜夜咒喀麥隆輸輸輸.......之後領隊比人炒炒炒.......
    
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posouth:當理性講唔掂, 唯有做D唔理性既野.
............................日日夜夜咒喀麥隆輸輸輸.......之後領隊比人炒炒炒.......
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Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp to take legal advice before deciding whether to play Joel Matip

Defender could yet feature at Plymouth Argyle in FA Cup as FIFA row rumbles on

Jurgen Klopp will take legal advice before deciding whether to field Joel Matip against Plymouth Argyle – even though Liverpool have no idea what possible punishment they could face from FIFA.

The Reds expect to be informed on Friday if the world governing body are to open a disciplinary investigation into Matip’s refusal to play for Cameroon at the ongoing Africa Cup of Nations.

Liverpool took the decision to not consider the fit-again centre-back for Sunday’s Premier League trip to Manchester United for fear of potential repercussions.


Klopp, though, has hinted Matip could be involved in the FA Cup third round replay at Plymouth Argyle on Wednesday night, having held talks with Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group and head of legal Jonathan Bamber.

“Of course I need advice, I’m not a lawyer,” said the Reds boss. “But the decision is for me to make.

“I could put him in the line-up, I don’t think referee is going to say ‘stop, stop, you cannot go on the pitch’.

“We have had a lot of talks over the days and weeks. We’ve done transfers quicker than this!


“It’s already long-term, but now it’s getting really tense on our side. We’ve tried everything, but at the end I have to make the decision.”

Of any likely sanctions from FIFA for playing Matip, Klopp explained: “We don’t know. It’s not 100% clear what happens (if we play him).

“You have to decide about risk. But he’d only been in training three or four days back in training and he’d have been on the bench (at United) rather than the starting line-up.

“Because we play Plymouth, maybe not the highest intensity game for a centre-half, it would make sense (to play him).

“Now he is ready to play for us, that makes it difficult.”


Liverpool are confident of their position, and could opt to wait on fielding Matip until FIFA address the matter before the end of the week.

The governing body will either clear the defender to play immediately or open an investigation which is expected to take between seven and 10 days to reach a conclusion, ruling Matip out of the Premier League visit of Swansea City, the EFL Cup semi-final second leg against Southampton and a possible FA Cup fourth round tie against Wolverhampton Wanderers.

Matip retired from international football in September 2015 and is one of seven Cameroon players to have ruled themselves out of the Africa Cup of Nations.

And Klopp believes regulations should be introduced to cater for this situation in the future.

“It’s not about blaming anybody, but you can imagine it’s not too easy to get in contact with the decisive people,” he said.

“The decisive people at the end are the president of the Cameroon FA and Mr (Gianni) Infantino from FIFA.


“My dream is a letter from the official side of Cameroon that says the player is released and can play for Liverpool.

“We would have let him go (to the Africa Cup of Nations). Sadio Mane is playing for Senegal. It’s not that the Africa Cup doesn’t fit our plans, or whatever.

“We would have let him go. But my understand is that it’s a free world, and if you don’t want to play for the national team and have different reasons for it, then it should be possible.

“We can all makes decision. Whole countries can leave the EU and nobody can say ‘no you can’t’. Obviously you can.

“We are not the club who says ‘we don’t want to have Africa Cup of Nations’. I like this tournament.

“Sadio is there. Ask Man United if they were happy if Sadio plays in the Africa Cup of Nations, and all the other teams we’re about to play.

“We are not (happy). If we could use him, we would. But he is there. Another player (Matip) has made a decision has said he wants to stay at the club, and how we have this situation.”

Klopp added: “For the future of all international players, there need to be real rules, no commentaries or anything like that.

“It’s not about blaming, it’s only about understanding the situation, and then in the end going ‘these are the rules’.”

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-boss-jurgen-klopp-take-12469559


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六場咁多?
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啪啪啪啪啪啪:六場咁多? (2017-01-18 10:17) 

羅力亞:
Joel Matip: Liverpool defender could miss six more games

Liverpool could be without defender Joel Matip for a further six games because of confusion over availability.

Matip 'refused to play' for Cameroon after being named in the preliminary squad for the Africa Cup of Nations.
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posouth:當理性講唔掂, 唯有做D唔理性既野.
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Update on Joel Matip: Jurgen Klopp has chosen to leave him on Merseyside to train. Coutinho & Sturridge both in travelling party.

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Liverpool hoping for Matip green light from FIFA today
Club expecting announcement from world governing body over defender eligibility

Liverpool are hoping that FIFA will today give the green light for Joel Matip to return to action.

The Reds have been told to expect an announcement from the world governing body but there has been no indication what time it will be made.

FIFA will either declare that Matip is free to play for the club during the Africa Cup of Nations or launch an official investigation into the defender’s dispute with the Cameroon Football Federation.

If the latter is the case then it could be a further 10 days before Liverpool receive a ruling about the former Schalke centre back’s availability.

That would rule him out of tomorrow’s Premier League clash with Swansea City at Anfield, as well as the EFL Cup semi-final second leg with Southampton and next weekend’s FA Cup tie with Wolves.

Cameroon insist that Matip shouldn’t be allowed to play for the Reds for the duration of their Africa Cup of Nations campaign having turned down an international call-up.

Both Liverpool and Matip are adamant that the FIFA regulations don’t apply in this case because Matip had already retired from international football.

Jurgen Klopp was tempted to play Matip in Wednesday’s FA Cup replay at Plymouth but in the end he decided it wasn’t worth the risk after FIFA declared there would be a ruling today.

“We are sure we did nothing wrong. We are sure Joel Matip did nothing wrong,” Klopp said.“He didn’t play for Cameroon since 2015. He’s not in the squad of Cameroon in this moment so he could not play for Cameroon.”

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-hoping-matip-green-light-12482304

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Liverpool confirm that Joel Matip is now eligible for selection after they receive FIFA confirmation

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羅力亞:Liverpool confirm that Joel Matip is now eligible for selection after they receive FIFA confirmation  (2017-01-21 05:35) 

咁峰迴路轉?!  

希望呢單野會成為案例, 唔使以後球員/球會拗得咁辛苦. 簡直覺得係自從有自由婚姻以黎既一大進步!      
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