[英超]利物浦外借右閘尼達利基尼（Nathaniel Clyne）至般尼茅夫 [復制鏈接]

Gabriel:唔會架啵，錢既問題姐，除非有規例規管啦 (2019-01-07 16:21) 

其實除左呢條條款之外

仲有條條款係:租借在外既球員只可以係轉會窗開放期間執行recall clause

即係佳尼應該都無咩可能會返到黎

Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season. Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window. Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window.

recall條款只係season long loan出現,而且只可以係1月recall

其實諗RECALL 真係有少少不切實際⋯⋯⋯


佢唔係年青新仔，唔係要出去吸收經驗。仲有回巢既期望。佢係已經成名既球員。借，其實只係賣既前奏。即係同分左手無咩分別。季尾講好價錢就會正式賣的了。你呢刻話唔需要佢，叫佢走人，兩三個月後，人地係新東家打得好地地，你又突然話等人用，叫佢番黎。仲講明淨係番黎打幾場，之後又會掃佢走。


你覺得佳尼會唔會有心同你打？

你真係當人地係貨物咩？呼之則來揮之則去。

英俊:Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season. Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a  .. (2019-01-07 16:29)

可否問一問呢段既出處係??


我粗略睇過Premier League Handbook，睇唔到recall clause相關既野（可能係我睇漏）

之不過無recall clause唔代表你唔可以「recall」個球員

有recall clause = 借出球會可以強制召回球員

無recall clause都可以雙方透過mutual consent去cancel個loan，不過要為球員註冊要得英超會方特別批准（因為註冊期外）


不過，呢啲實在距離而家太遠，同太少機會發生

freezefox:其實諗RECALL 真係有少少不切實際⋯⋯⋯
佢唔係年青新仔，唔係要出去吸收經驗。仲有回巢既期望。佢係已經成名既球員。借，其實只係賣既前奏。即係同分左手無咩分別。季尾講好價錢就會正式賣的了。你呢刻話唔需要佢，叫佢走人，兩三個月後，人地係新東家打得好地 .. (2019-01-07 16:45)

同樣道理，放佢係雪櫃雪到硬哂，然後前面傷左三四件，無得揀先出佢，咁Clyne又會有心同你打咩？咁似乎放佢走，就算唔係最佳選擇，都唔係好差姐


我提出recall既設想，只係提出多一個可能性，支持我唔反對借佢走（唔係支持借佢走）既講法

freezefox:你真係當人地係貨物咩？呼之則來揮之則去。 (2019-01-07 16:45) 

職業足球界係可以無人情味架啦，你明架

但而家呢個決定，明顯係有人情味既決定啦。反而，係你角度係將人情稱高過球會利益添啵，咁點算係當人貨物呢，咁講未必太harsh啦

Gabriel:職業足球界係可以無人情味架啦，你明架
但而家呢個決定，明顯係有人情味既決定啦。反而，係你角度係將人情稱高過球會利益添啵，咁點算係當人貨物呢，咁講未必太harsh啦 (2019-01-07 17:11) 

你唔覺你宜家講既野好矛盾咩？


借佢走：我地為佢好咋！我地關心個球員既足球生命，唔想佢為左球會白白犧牲自己既青春。完全係為左球員著想！


叫佢番黎：無球員可以大過球會！球會就是一切！我地有合約係手！一切講合約精神！球會要求你番黎你就要番黎。唔好同我講咩人情味！





同一件事，你用兩套原則去解釋。真係公就你贏字就我輸了⋯⋯⋯

freezefox:你唔覺你宜家講既野好矛盾咩？
借佢走：我地為佢好咋！我地關心個球員既足球生命，唔想佢為左球會白白犧牲自己既青春。完全係為左球員著想！
....... (2019-01-07 17:22) 

一啲都唔矛盾！每個決定都可以係相對獨立

借佢走還借佢走，叫佢番黎救亡還叫佢番黎救亡


當然唔係單純為佢好，我相信高普，以至佢既團隊都唔係九流既，除左球員既發展，亦都有兼顧球會既利益。就好似你所提倡既最佳選擇：留低佢，同而家「借佢走」比較，就係提高左球會利益作為考慮因素既分量啦

叫佢番黎，只係一個短線，作為你假設既傷病潮既解決辦法一個可能性。有付出人情債，有需要時要人還人情，世道啦。不過Clyne睇呢個係人情，定係佢好似你咁諗，就不得而知啦

freezefox:你唔覺你宜家講既野好矛盾咩？
借佢走：我地為佢好咋！我地關心個球員既足球生命，唔想佢為左球會白白犧牲自己既青春。完全係為左球員著想！
....... (2019-01-07 17:22) 

我諗，唔俾佳尼一月走，操fit番個比賽狀態，比起你所講既「無球員可以大過球會！球會就是一切！我地有合約係手！一切講合約精神！」更加無人情味啦

Gabriel:可否問一問呢段既出處係??
我粗略睇過Premier League Handbook，睇唔到recall clause相關既野（可能係我睇漏）
....... (2019-01-07 16:58) 

53.2.2

Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season. Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window. Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window.

加埋自己玩FM既經驗

Gabriel:我諗，唔俾佳尼一月走，操fit番個比賽狀態，比起你所講既「無球員可以大過球會！球會就是一切！我地有合約係手！一切講合約精神！」更加無人情味啦 (2019-01-07 17:33) 

季尾走點解無人情味？！呢個真係令人百思不得其解！個個後備都係咁既你間球會仲駛運作既？個個季中叫走人你搵邊個打後備？

一個季度完結！樣樣清清楚楚！季尾比你走人！有咩咁無人情味？佢得番一年時間可以踢波？

如果好彩今今季我地拎到冠軍，佢仲可以用利記球員既身份分享呢份殊榮！咁都叫無人情味？


反而，借左人出去，然後隨時隨地鐘意就CALL 番佢番黎就叫有人情味！我就真係唔理解呢D 係咩人情味⋯⋯⋯⋯

英俊:53.2.2
Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season. Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be inclu .. (2019-01-07 17:40) 

咩黎架

FM好多野都不能盡信，佢唔可以模擬哂所有可能性

不過無咩可能需要Clyne番黎架啦

freezefox:季尾走點解無人情味？！呢個真係令人百思不得其解！個個後備都係咁既你間球會仲駛運作既？個個季中叫走人你搵邊個打後備？
一個季度完結！樣樣清清楚楚！季尾比你走人！有咩咁無人情味？佢得番一年時間可以踢波？
....... (2019-01-07 17:46)

唔明邊度令你覺得我話過叫人番黎係叫做有人情味。

你都無打算用人，留人越耐，就越係耽誤人地，不知道可否算是無人情呢？或者叫欠缺人情味？定相對無借人走咁有人情味？

球會肯既話，Clyne就算無踢夠5場都可以有冠軍獎牌，拿，呢樣我唔知算唔算得上係你所講既「分享呢份殊榮」，但你問我，我唔覺佢做隱形人到季尾拎牌同去般尼茅夫踢半季拎牌有咩大分別

再重申，隨時隨地recall唔係叫有人情味，我無咁講

freezefox:季尾走點解無人情味？！呢個真係令人百思不得其解！個個後備都係咁既你間球會仲駛運作既？個個季中叫走人你搵邊個打後備？
一個季度完結！樣樣清清楚楚！季尾比你走人！有咩咁無人情味？佢得番一年時間可以踢波？
....... (2019-01-07 17:46) 

借佢出去操FIT個態
壓力細好多..
之前車仔借蘇馬去STOKE 都係咁