pre-rafa: liverpool有時打下uefa cup, 有時都會入到champs league. uefa cup除左一次champ, 有時都去到4強, 8強架~ champs league? 出唔出到分組賽呀嗰次?
now: 響歐洲, consistently出線分組賽, 一次16強, 其他全部8強以上.歐洲賽有邊個唔驚liverpool?
呢個係唔係進步?
league: 我地睇大圍, 無論積分, 得失球差, 勝負場數, 呢幾季有邊一樣唔係穩步上揚? (除左今季, 不過今季都未完)
pre rafa: 有冇人覺得我地係big 4? 當時嘅我地, 只可以話係頭6隊.
98-99 - rank: 7 68-49, 54分
99-00 - rank:4 51-30, 67分 (24 points from the top)
00-01 - rank: 3 71-39 (69分)
01-02 - rank:2 67-30 (80分)
02-03 - rank: 5 61-41 (64分)
03-04 - rank: 4 55-37 (58分) (32points from the top)
fact: The 1990s was a relatively unsuccessful decade "by Liverpool standards". The 1990 league title was their most recent top division title to date, although they did win the FA Cup in 1992 and a record fifth League Cup in 1995, they never finished higher than third place after 1991 (in the 90's) and in 1994 finished as low as eighth.
大家可以想像/仲記得呢d情況嗎?
如果你話俾我聽你見唔到隊波打法上/球員層面有咩勁到, d數據應該可以證明到掛?!
好多人一開始就拎rafa同man u/chelsea d領隊直接比較, 咁樣公平咩? rafa上任時, man u dominate左幾耐? chelsea有幾多錢? rafa上任前嘅6屆聯賽, man u羸左4屆. 有咁嘅班底, 就好似賽跑有晒高科技跑鞋, 科學化嘅營養食譜, 再加埋已經起跑左. chelsea嘅錢, 唔使介紹啦~ 而rafa? 一開始有咩班底? igor biscan? djimi traore? milan baros? bruno cheyrou? anthony la talle? 仲有某位有名氣嘅英籍青訓前鋒嘅離去. 咁樣同人跑, 就好似有對舊跑鞋, 啱啱先準備緊起步. 而且, man u 冇換過領隊, 咁自己expect佢一樣會keep住有進步/起碼維持水準啦. 而且仲有唔少錢去每一屆再響奪冠嘅層面上再補充/增強呢. chelsea又係unlimited funds, 即係又係唔使點講.
要講買人..... 事實係, 買d平d嘅人, 當然有較大嘅風險係球員最後會因為各種原因打唔出水準. 可能本身冇水準, 可能適應唔到英國生活, 可能language barriers, 可能homesick, whatever. 但你估佢想買d平架? 佢想買simao, 買到仲會唔會買pennant? aguero更加唔在講, 唔係perry喺度阻住, reject左個transfer? 無可否認, 佢 ransfer嘅record唔係完美, 不過請你試下提出一個有完美嘅transfer record嘅manager?
睇下例子, 30m shenchenko, 如果rafa做錯一個30m(1.5個season嘅budget, 連埋人工可能2個season, 冇辦法, liverpool 個chairman而家話人工都計埋落budget)嘅決定, 我相信應該兩季前進唔到.... 10幾m ferreira? liverpool就只係josemi (2m, sold for 2m), kronkamp (2m, sold for 2.xm) 點解用2m? 因為要錢黎upgrade其他位, 所以迫住用少d嘅錢, 希望執到寶 (eg. arbeloa) 好, 又睇下第2隊? 18m nani? 18m anderson? 如果你地話, 呢兩個唔係買返黎即食, 咁我接受. 但我地有冇本錢用36m去買d後生嘅返黎train? 又有冇本錢可以唔upgrade現有班底, 就咁plan for future? 如果一季可以用36m買人返黎train, 我相信我地嘅年青球員一樣可以好勁. 事實係, 我地年青球員絕大部份都係平嘅, maybe except babel (a "massive" 11m). 人地閒閒地, 一個winter就12m tosic, 5m llajic啦. 咦? tosic? 大家(except man u fans)唔記得左喇? 係呀, 12m架. rafa有冇本錢咁樣用12m而唔使俾人批評呢? 18m hargreaves 抖一年幾, 點解呢單野嘅批評聲音比起aquilani抖2個月就更大嘅? 仲要aquilani本身就話左係傷, 買返黎係睇5年, 而家都未算正式復出, 打成點都未知, 咁快就批評? 咁hargreaves呢? 算唔算判斷錯得仲緊要? (hargreaves響德國都有返咁上下injury prone, 唔會唔知掛?!) 而且, 唔買aquilani可以買邊個呢? 個個都識插lucas, 實情係買佢返黎用左6m. 比較下18m anderson先再批評啦..... 一個球員22歲未peak係唔出奇的, (for example, drogba22歲嘅時候, 有邊個聽過?) 仲要佢係由拉丁嗰邊轉過黎.
要講, 真係多多都講唔完.....
只可以話, 冇一個manager係完美, rafa係有佢不足之處, 但如果你唔認同佢係有能力的話, 咁冇辦法. 如果有能力, 咁又點會突然響第6年冇晒d能力呢? 5年嘅轉變, 如果你睇到個方向, 個進步, 點解唔可以俾多d時間佢去完成埋個project呢? 如果講尋晚, 首先, first half其實踢得幾好. 2nd half, 輸第2球, 其實係kuyt勤力救波, 咁啱救左之後反而幫左人, 俾人推落底搞掂. 第3球少左2個人, 冇得好講. 至於d紅牌, 而家人地offside, 結果竟然係我地球員俾人罰紅牌, 咁你仲可以點? 我唔係話尋日唔抵輸, 我想講嘅係, form is temporary, class is permanent. 一隊波陷入低潮, 係絕對有可能發生, 係可以理解嘅事. 特別我地冇左17m gj, 20m torres, 20m aquilani, captain gerrard, agger, skrtel, aurelio (好似話感染左aquilani嘅virus?), riera etc by my reckoning, that's 8 first team players out, 6 being starters for the team. 如果咁樣就話炒manager, 個人而言實在不敢苟同.
要炒人, 唔好只睇一兩個月嘅事, 睇5年, 睇返個整體你會客觀d. 要炒人, 講個有可能性嘅replacement黎聽下? hiddink我都知佢好, 佢係咪肯黎/有冇可能黎先得架.....
如果你地唔理stable, constant嘅progress, 只想捧冠軍隊, 咁呢類glory-hunters liverpool真係唔需要. (況且本身都夠多呢d人了)
