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1月22日正式播出!


以下都為北京時間,第七集之後會停播一周

BECAUSE YOU LEFT - 2009 年1月22日

THE LIE - 2009年1月22日

JUGHEAD -2009年1月29日

THE LITTLE PRINCE - 年2月5日

THIS PLACE IS DEATH - 2009年2月11日

THE LIFE AND DEATH OF JEREMY BENTHAM - 2009年2月18日
316 - 2009年2月25日

LEFLEUR - 2009年3月11日

NAMASTE - 2009年3月18日

HE'S OUR YOU -2009年3月25日




下面是頭雙集的劇情透露…慎入!
































1.有兩個分開獨立時間線。一是Oceanic 6剛離開小島,二是三年後當Ben見到Jack。Jeremy Bentham 醒來告訴他們必須回去。
2.是Alpert告訴Locke他們必須回到島上。
3.我們會瞭解到島上的losties和小島消失時和Faraday一起的人的情況。
4.除了小島的位置變化了,島上的營地和天鵝艙出現或者再次出現“不同的狀況“
5.Locke孤身一人,並沒有和其他losties在一起。
6.親子驗證將證實Kate是否是Aaron親娘。
7.包括Ana Lucia這些死去的人將會有更多的“還魂”機會。
8.聖母瑪利亞的小雕像相會再次出現(預告片裡,飛機墜落)。
9.Hurley 和Sayid在一起的時候,Hurley說過很多經典臺詞,包括:當Sayid不吃Hurley給他的薯條時,Hurley 說:“你知道嗎,如果你能吃些好東西,你就不會到處去殺 人。"You know, maybe if you ate more comfort food, you wouldn't have to go around killing people."
10.Faraday知道更多關於小島的東西,他似乎知道誰在掌控這個小島。他將對抗那些時間旅行“規則”,試圖去改變過去。
11.Juliet和Sawyer似乎也要羅曼蒂克了





1.第五季的開始還是在第四季結尾的Jack和Ben見面的地方。
2.一些重要的問題會被揭開。包括為什麼O6必須回到小島,當Ben移動小島的時候發生了啥事。Sun對Widmore說他們有共同利益是啥個意思。
3.Arrow station(飛機尾部生還者躲避TO的地方)。我們將會在一開始就會故地重遊,會提到關於他有趣的用途。
4.第五季開始就會有3人掛掉。
5.Sayid和Ben所處的狀況似乎非常糟。
6.一些死去的角色再現(老黃曆的劇透了)
7.Sayer在第一集的40多分鐘裡一直赤裸上身。
8.Faraday和他畢生的工作在第五季首映中會非常關鍵。



《迷失 Lost》中一些隻以是與否回答的問題(只關於5x01/5x02)!!!!!含大量劇透!!!!!慎入!!!!!!

1.小島移動後是否回到以前?


2.Annie會否出現?


3.是否有一些新登場的角色是好人?


4.Ben是否意圖想回到小島?


5.我們是否會再看到還在生的Ethan在5x01/5x02?


6.Locke真的死掉嗎?


7.我們會否知道Claire發生怎麼事?


8.Sawyer是否認為Kate已死?


9.在5x02中,Ana lucia是否以鬼的身份出現?


10.我們是否會看到Pierre Chang(錄影帶博士)在5x01/5x02?


11.在5x01/5x02中,會否出現新的dharma站?


12.Rose和Bernard會否死?


13.與Daniel在橡皮艇上的生還者是否會跟Daniel一起回到島上?


14.是否有主要角色死於5x01/5x02?


15.Neil是否會死於沙灘上的襲擊中?

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Episode 5.01: Because You Left (Season premiere)
Airdate: January 21, 2009 at 9 p.m.

12/25 - The remaining island survivors start to feel the effects of the aftermath of moving the island, and Jack and Ben begin their quest to reunite the Oceanic 6 in order to return to the island with Locke's body in an attempt to save their former fellow castaways. Guest cast: L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Sam Anderson as Bernard, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, William Mapother as Ethan Rom, Francois Chau as Dr. Marvin Candle,Sonya Walger as Penelope "Penny" Widmore, Alan Dale as Charles Widmore, Rebecca Mader as Charlotte Lewis, William Blanchett as Aaron, Sean Whalen as Neil Frogurt, Tom Irwin as Dan Norton, Michael Dempsey as foreman, Stephanie Smart as ticket agent, Leslie Ishii as woman, Cindy Paliracio as TV anchor, Brad Berryhill as anxious guy, Sven Lindstrom as crew member, Chantal Boomla as counter girl, Jeremy Colvin as security guard. Source: ABC
09/28 - We will come to learn that one of the following is true in Lost's fifth season premiere. A. The Island moved forward in time. B. The Island moved backward in time. C. The Island did not move in time, but it did move in space -- to another location on the planet. D. The Island did not move in time or space -- it's still there, but Dharma tech renders it invisible to the naked eye. Source: The Ausiello Files
09/18 - First scene we saw had Sawyer, Bernard, Rose, and Juliet. They appeared to be having a conversation in the jungle. Second scene had Charlotte and Miles, going back to camp. We watched for about 90 minutes. According to one of the crew, it was for Episode 5.01. Source: The Transmission
08/24 - Foreman: 40s to 50s, any ethnicity. A blue-collar construction worker. He's worked hard to get where he is and provide for his family. He cares deeply for his crew, hates it when management is condescending and arrogant but ultimately knows his place in the pecking order. Co-star. Martha:35 to 40, Asian, attractive. A smart, capable scientist with a strong personality who has taken a break to raise her baby but plans to work again. Completely believes in the work she is doing but sometimes questions the decisions of those in charge. Co-star, recurring. Dan: 40s, any ethnicity. A high-priced attorney, someone really sharp who can be friendly. However, there's a real menace lurking below the surface. Recurring guest star. Source: DocArzt's Lost Blog
08/24 - Hurley and Sayid drive into the apartment complex parking lot in a late-model blue SUV. (It and the other cars have California plates.) They exit, Sayid looking sharp in a black shirt and dark khaki pants, Hurley wearing a thick, long, grey bathrobe over a blue T-shirt. Hurley's also holding a big burger and paper cup. They make their way stealthily up the stairs, and walk the length of the building, past several apartments. They work their way up to the top floor, Hurley eating the whole way. Finally they reach the apartment they're looking for. They confer for a moment. Sayid seems to reach for the top of the door, looking for a key, perhaps, when something startles them. Sayid pushes Hurley aside, and draws his gun, pointing it at the door. It opens, and there's a struggle inside. The next moment, Sayid throws a man over the railing to the asphalt four stories below. There's a second man inside. Shots ring out. Hurley emerges from the apartment, gun in his hand, and looks over the railing in disbelief. Looks like Sayid is introducing Hurley to his new career. Source: The Transmission


Episode 5.02: The Lie
Airdate: January 21, 2009 at 10 p.m.

12/25 - Hurley and Sayid are on the run from the cops after stumbling into trouble at the safehouse; the island survivors come under attack by unknown forces; and an old friend offers some shocking advice to Kate in order to ensure that "the lie" remain a secret. Guest cast: Michelle Rodriguez as Ana Lucia, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Sam Anderson as Bernard, Sonya Walger as Penelope "Penny" Widmore, Rebecca Mader as Charlotte Lewis, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, Lillian Hurst as Carmen Reyes, Cheech Marin as David Reyes, William Blanchett as Aaron, Sean Whalen as Neil Frogurt, Tom Connolly as Jones, Mary Mara as Jill, Dana Sorman as Darlene, James Jeremiah as police officer, Stephanie Conching as nurse, Matthew Allan as Cunningham, Todd Bryant as Mattingly. Source: ABC
08/30 - Cunningham: Mid-20s to Early 30s. Any ethnicity. Athletic, used to living outdoors and off the land. He is a loyal soldier but willing to compromise with the enemy to protect his men. This role is introduced in 502 and has scenes in 503. Source: DocArzt's Lost Blog
08/25 - Michelle Rodriguez [...] is returning to the show this season, multiple sources confirm. [...] Rodriguez is back for one episode, most likely this season's second. [...] The fact that Cheech Marin is also on the guest list for eppy 2 suggests that it's most likely a Hurley-centric outing. And after his encounter with Charlie's ghost last season, it's certainly feasible that Hurley would have an imaginary run-in with Ana Lucia. Source: The Ausiello Files
08/24 - Nigel: British, in his late teens. Despite being rough around the edges, mature well beyond his age and extremely smart. Must have English accent. Nice co-star. Will appear in episodes 502 and 503. Darlene: Early 20s, any ethnicity. A bored clerk who hates her sucky job and looks for any burst of excitement to get through the shift. Alternative in dress and style, plays guitar in her own band but needs the day job to pay the bills. Co-star. Jill: Late 20s to late 30s; any ethnicity. A butcher who is one hard-as-nails cool chick. A tomboy, bit of a searcher, and highly competent beyond her station in life. Co-star. Source: DocArzt's Lost Blog


Episode 5.03: Jughead
Airdate: January 28 at 9 p.m.

09/18 - When action was called, Henry Ian Cusick raced into the heart of the bustling marketplace. Desmond was out of breath, sweaty, wearing an unbuttoned maroon paisley shirt rolled up to his elbows, light khaki pants, and blue canvas shoes. He was clutching a piece of paper, reading it, then scanning the crowd frantically. He called out a name, over and over, stopping and saying it to perplexed faces. He was looking for someone, but losing hope. Try as I might, I couldn't make out the first name. Althea? Theone? Was it a man, a woman, a child? From context, I'd guess it was a male name. But the last name was clear as day: Salonga. Source: The Transmission
09/18 - In Kaimuki, they were filming at the corner of 9th and Waialae Avenue . It is an accident scene where Hurley (stunt double was driving) speeds down the street and knocks over some boxes on the sidewalk before driving off. He's being chased by someone you'll never guess... Ana-Lucia in a police car. She was in the car the whole time, so I couldn't 100% confirm it was her but I'm pretty sure. I just don't want to speculate and be wrong. She had HUGE glasses on. I'm guessing flashback or hallucination. I should add that the stunt guy was wearing hospital type garb, so that's why I think it is in the present. Source: Lost Spoilers
09/17 - Solanga: Male, 50s, Filipino. The village doctor in a small, rural community. Has his vices but also genuine medical skills. Speaks relatively good English with an accent. Janitor: Male, late 40s or 50s, must have a British working class accent. Nosy, opinionated, resident rumor monger of a school. Knows everyone's business and can't keep a secret to save his life. Abigail : Female, 30s, British; working class. Stoic - but deeply wounded. Has a way with bitter sarcasm, though she's a loyal caregiver at heart. Theresa: Female, 30s, British, blonde. Pretty suffers from dementia but also has short periods of complete lucidity. Source: DocArzt's Lost Blog
08/24 - Sophie: British and in her late teens. Is a seemingly innocent, prim and proper aristocrat but in actuality she hides a toughness and ingenuity underneath. Must have English accent. Nice co-star. Will appear in episode 503. Source: DocArzt's Lost Blog


Episode 5.04: The Little Prince
Airdate: February 4, 2009

12/04 - A call sheet for episode 5.04, "The Little Prince," offers us some information about the episode. Here are a few tidbits from the call sheet: Charlotte will have a bloody nose and be passed out for a while. Faraday is by her side. It seems Miles and Juliet also have nosebleeds. The camp has been raided. Locke wants to return to the Orchid station. Sayid is attacked. Later, he reluctantly joins Ben to extract Hurley. Jack resigns from his job at the hospital. Eventually, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Ben and Sun are reunited. Jin's not dead. Ethan appears in a flashback. Source: TV Squad
10/02 - Sawyer, Juliet, Daniel, Miles, Charlotte, and ***** will learn Jin's fate at the precise moment we do: in episode 4. In other news, ask yourself this question: Why was Jorge Garcia shooting a scene in jail last week? Source: The Ausiello Files
09/30 - They're going to make us sweat out the fate of Jin. We won't see him at all for the first three episodes, and it's not until episodes four and five that we'll really understand what happened to him when the freighter exploded. [...] I'm now hearing from sources that Jin will be found Leo DiCaprio-in-Titanic style, floating on a door. Alive or dead? Source: Kristin on E!Online
09/28 - Dr. Evelyn Ariza: 30s-40s, any ethnicity. Chief of staff at a hospital. She's attractive with a great bed-side manner but tough and carries her authority well. Not afraid to make difficult decisions. Source: Lost Spoilers


Episode 5.05: This Place Is Death
Airdate: February 11, 2009

09/17 - Brigitte: Early 20s, Caucasian, French. Pretty and self-reliant. Works as a waitress in an up-scale restaurant in Tunisia and meets a mysterious stranger. Must speak French. Source: DocArzt's Lost Blog


Episode 5.06: The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham
Airdate: February 18, 2009

11/02 - Lost returned to Oahu Cemetery this morning, perhaps a fitting location on the brink of Halloween. The historic graveyard previously appeared in the Season 2 episode "Lockdown," as the not-quite-final resting place of Anthony Cooper. It seemed, at first, a peaceful scene, with Matthew Abbadon bringing a wheelchair-bound John Locke to a modest grave site for an intense conversation. But things turned quickly when it came time to leave. Locke, in the back seat of a blue four-door sedan, waited as Abbadon loaded his wheelchair into the trunk. But no sooner had Abbadon closed the lid, when shots rang out. And Abbadon is hit. Source: The Transmission
10/27 - Lance Reddick (a.k.a. corporate recruiter Matthew Abaddon, as well as Fringe's Phillip Broyles) was just spotted in Hawaii shooting what I assume is episode 5.06. Source: The Ausiello Files
10/12 - Hajer: Male, Arab, 30s-50s. A very local "doctor" who probably doesn't have a traditional medical degree but has the experience to tackle anything the harsh desert can throw at him. Tough bed-side manner but knows how to get the job done. Must speak Tunisian Arabic. Source: Lost Spoilers [Note: It's not clear when the character will appear. It could be in 5.07 instead of 5.06.]


Episode 5.07: 316
Airdate: February 25, 2009

12/18 - We're going to meet Jack's grandfather for the first time in episode 7! He'll be played by actor Raymond Barry, who's probably best known for his role as Tom Cruise's dad in Born on the Fourth of July. Source: The Ausiello Files
10/27 - Hal: 70s, Caucasian. Successful, handsome and charming rogue with a twinkle in his eye. A guy who can still fight the establishment and win. May recur. Mike: 30s-40s with Czech accent. A scientist. Very intelligent and creative. He's excited to show his boss his latest discovery. Has worked hard and knows he's on the brink of something big. Vicki: 30s-40s, any ethnicity, attractive. Charming, coy and knows how to get what she wants. Has spent a lifetime in bars and can read a guy better than he knows himself. Rupa: 20s, Indian (South Asian), pretty. Sweet, fun-loving professional young woman who can be tougher than she appears. Can deal with difficult customers with charm and ease. Nandi: Male, 30-35, Indian (South Asian) he's smart and professional. He's used to working with difficult and annoying people, so he's developed a kind but firm demeanor. Source: Lost Spoilers


Episode 5.08: LaFleur
Airdate: March 4, 2009

11/08 - Phil: Any ethnicity, mid-20s to mid-40s. Thin, serious, and in usually in a bad mood. Works in corporate security, a task master, runs his teams by the rules. Possible recur. Jerry: Any ethnicity, mid-20s to mid-30s. A bad boy. Dangerous, charming and always up for a good time. Works in corporate security; can be serious and tough when he needs to be. Possible recur. Doctor: Male, any ethnicity, 30s. Smart, hippy-ish, well-trained doctor who finds himself thrown into a situation outside of his medical experience and has to adjust. Source: Lost Spoilers
11/08 - Reiko Aylesworth is in negotiations for a major recurring role on ABC's Lost. In at least four episodes of ABC Studios' Lost, Aylesworth will play Amy, a smart and successful professional woman with a love for the outdoors who is looking for the right man. Source: The Hollywood Reporter
11/02 - Amy: A smart, attractive and charismatic Caucasian woman somewhere between 35-42 years old. She is outdoorsy and adventurous. She is comfortably successful at her job. Her love life is complicated and a reflection of her own complex nature. She is a woman many men find attractive and she likes qualities of each of her suitors but is looking for the whole package. Other women find her funny and honest. A significant recur of at least 4 episodes. Source: Lost Spoilers


Episode 5.09: Namatse
Airdate: March 11, 2009

12/04 - We have gotten the confirmation that [recurring character Marty Jankowsky] will be played by Eric Lange and that he will appear in at least two episodes. [...] As of now it seems like Marty will be a character with off-island scenes. Source: Lost Spoilers
11/20 - Marty Jankowsky: 40s to 50s, Caucasian, very smart and controlling. Marty has his own way of doing things and god help you if you cross him and/or try to alter his very precise process. A deep and free thinker he uses his fierce intellect as a weapon. Possible recur. Jack Ross: 30s, any ethnicity. A former air force bomber pilot who now uses his professional skills and unflappable demeanor to maintain order in a highly chaotic environment. He's smart, professional and competent. He keeps his wits as those around him in a crisis are losing theirs. Source: Lost Spoilers


Episode 5.10: He's Our You
Airdate: March 18, 2009

12/12 - [A scene set in Russia] was for Naveen Andrews, who stalked about dressed all in black (including a leather jacket). Most of the action happened behind closed doors, but the last scene depicted Sayid coming out of the building, holding something inside his jacket, and walking away. Bags of ice were spread across the sidewalk to depict snow. Interestingly, the same thing was done one block east on this same street for another Sayid scene (leaving a restaurant in Berlin). [...] After sundown, they turned up at Bishop Museum, where the show had recreated yet another Russian locale . According to my friend Jeff, a museum employee, both Naveen Andrews and Michael Emerson were on hand. He said they were in Red Square, and that fake snow was sprayed on the side of Hawaiian Hall and on cars parked along the lane. Source: The Transmission
12/04 - Young Boy: 8, must speak Arabic. Quiet and thoughtful who loves his older brother and is protective of him, can do what his father asks calmly and coolly. Source: Lost Spoilers
11/26 - Father: 40s, must speak Arabic. A domineering and quick-tempered father who's trying to bring his boys up properly. Feels he has to teach his son a lesson about how to be a real man. Older boy: 12, must speak Arabic. Sensitive and kind-hearted, he's scared of his domineering father and knows he's a sad disappointment. Ivan: Late 30s to late 40s, pudgy, must have a Russian accent, wealthy, upper-class and has lived the good life, but gambling debts have caught up with him. Now he fears for his life from the Russian mob. Source: Lost Spoilers


Episode 5.11: Title Unknown
Airdate: March 25, 2009

12/18 - Erik: late 20s to 30s. Any ethnicity. Smart and dangerous. Tough military type. Follows orders and doesn't question them. He is a loyal soldier. Could possibly recur. Debra: late 20s to 30s. Any ethnicity. Intelligent field nurse. Can quickly respond to new emergencies. Strong, does not shrink from overwhelming situations. Source: Lost Spoilers


Episode 5.12: Title Unknown
Airdate: April 1, 2009

12/18 - Graham: Caucasian, male, 40. Blue eyes, 6 foot, English/British ONLY, confident, has come into his own and ready to be a leader. He's the SVP of a major financial corporation jockeying for the CEO position. Source: Lost Spoilers
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岩岩追完頭兩集
係咁玩時空穿梭…呢到幾正…
Hurley最後做咩唔跟ben走
同埋最後個老太婆係唔係dan個喔媽…?
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引用第3樓klinsmannabc2009-01-23 01:21發表的“”:
岩岩追完頭兩集
係咁玩時空穿梭…呢到幾正…
Hurley最後做咩唔跟ben走
同埋最後個老太婆係唔係dan個喔媽…?


hurley 唔係 ben 走係因為 sayid 叫佢唔好信 ben,ben 叫做乜野就做相反……

最後個老太婆係 dan 既阿媽,亦係之前賣過隻介指俾 desmond 果個人……
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第三集有啦
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引用第5樓lennon2009-01-29 19:58發表的“”:
第三集有啦 [表情]

岩岩睇左…

richand無論係咩時空都係咁後生,奇!…佢會唔會就係其他人ge constant.?
widmore原來係出自個島…
charlotte應該死啦…
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岩岩睇左…
richand無論係咩時空都係咁後生,奇!…佢會唔會就係其他人ge constant.?
widmore原來係出自個島…
.......


Locke 好恨做呀頭

Locke 會唔會就係之前木屋個 Jacob ?
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你地邊個dl o架, 咁快有o既
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引用第7樓lennon2009-01-29 20:13發表的“”:
Locke 好恨做呀頭 [表情]
Locke 會唔會就係之前木屋個 Jacob ?


好耐之前有 fans 已經係咁遲疑,仲好細心咁研究,不過佢地發現 jacob 同 locke 既眼睛唔同顏色……
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你地邊個dl o架, 咁快有o既[表情]


我係上百度lost吧 等link dl的
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下面是轉貼的。

命運之輪下的塵埃:大衛茶S05E03個人評析



因為種種原因,這篇分析數次被打斷,一拖就是三天,所以開頭的時候還是年意盎然,但完成的時候大家都開始上班復工了。不過既然是年三十後第一集lost,還是要先祝大家新年一切順利:

清風化雨春來到
萬物歸途人心笑
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困路荊途莫擋道



好了,言歸正傳,第三集依然保持了很高的解密速度,但同時也繼續讓人眩暈著,時間旅行成為了解決之前諸多謎題的鑰匙。同時我們也開始發現,原來這 一切迷失的編劇早就已經安排好了,大量的細節資訊都暗示著一個整體而宏大的故事體系早已埋下,而現在所做的不過是一步步地挖掘這個巨型“恐龍骨架”的每一 段骨頭。隨著小島的歷史逐漸顯山露水,我們開始意識到,這個故事所涉及的各方勢力遠不像現在所見的那麼簡單,這是一個跨越幾十年甚至上百年時間,歷經了數 個文明體系,橫亙幾代人的恩怨情仇,並涉及時間線索宏偉議題的史詩級架構,最後其深刻性估計會超過所有人的想像。



為什麼呢?還聽我細細講來(當然,也可能只不過是無聊的YY,歡迎探討。)
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題眼之一——漫途之路




其實這一點與本集劇情沒有什麼關係,但我依然決定要發表一下自己的看法。前幾天與幾位志同道合的迷友們共同探討新一季的迷失。出乎我意料的是,他 們無一例外地對第五季乃至迷失表現出或多或少地失望,原因就是在第五季編劇終於祭出了時間旅行這個萬能的法寶。從而也正式宣告了迷失科幻劇集的定位,“用 現有科學知識完美解釋一切的”承諾幾近誑語,而這一切都讓當初的激情隨之消退,只剩下一點“跟下去”好奇而已。



對於此我並沒有太多的意見,但從我個人的觀點來看迷失並沒有偏離其原有的軌道,而“值不值得再看下去”的言論更是沒有什麼實際的價值。首先,真正 推動迷失發展的是什麼?對不起不是劇情,也不是理論,而是——懸念!若你是一個從第一季就追過來的朋友,回顧一下這五季的觀影過程,你就會發現其實支撐起 迷失整個體系的是懸念架構。大大小小的過門,無處不在的彩蛋,幾乎每集都有數個橋段讓你心跳加快!而其他的如理論、情感、哲學、人性的剖析乃至劇情本身, 都不過是這個框架上的填充物而已。所以要讓我為迷失定位,我更願意稱之為“懸疑驚悚”而非“科幻”,所以第五季迷失的走向並沒有改變其原有的方向。



而且迷失本身就已經是一個傳奇。要在總量將近百集的每一集中都埋下不止一處的懸念與謎題,而且要相得益彰前後呼應且不會相互衝突,若你是編劇面對這樣的一個任務,你又會作何感想?這簡直就是mission impossible,而迷失做到了。(不論你怎麼看)



其次,科幻還是邊緣?科幻界長久以來一直有這樣的爭論。那就是科幻的“未來度”到底應該有多少才是恰當?30年前電風扇是稀罕的東西,20年前電 視機都並不是很普及,10年前很多人還不知道網路,讀了法國人的著作《屎的歷史》,400年前我們已經進入了明朝,而法國巴黎的大街上依然是屎尿橫流,但 400年後這裡卻是藝術與文化的天堂。現在的神話就可能成為明天的現實,那我們的科幻要幻想到多遠才能被稱之為科學幻想而不是魔幻?也許在幾百年後我們就 可以象聖鬥士那樣燃燒小宇宙,人就可以象植物一樣光合作用不用吃飯。但科學乃至社會的發展都是盤旋式上升的,這是一個完整的鏈條,我們現在的一環就會促使 下一環的實現,缺少了任何一個環節都無法發展。於是不成文的規定出現了,那就是所謂的科幻不能跳過太多的鏈環,否則則成為了空想。而這個度就要靠科幻工作 者自己來把握,其直觀表現就是在現有的科學理論基礎上進行思維的擴展,雖然很多科學理論在發展的過程中都被推翻了(比如說當年跟理髮師很密切的放血療法, 現在還有人用麼?),但更多的是在不斷的完善,所以科幻有一點要把握那就是不能脫離現有的科學理論。而對於迷失來說,我更認為其是傾向於《危機邊緣》這類 的邊緣科學幻想,在保證一定硬度的科學理論內核的情況下進行適度地想像與發揮,而涉及時間議題,是個挑戰,也是個機遇!

第三,時間旅行的出現早已經有先兆。時間旅行被正式提出後我並沒有覺得奇怪,因為迷失早就在暗示這一點了。我在第四季迷失停播期間寫的中就提到過,迷失中 出現時間旅行的可能性為70%。而第四季中島內島外的時間差也早早地預示了能夠控制時間能量的存在,des的意識流時間穿梭已經涉及科幻領域,(在時間理 論領域中很早出現過這樣一種理論,認為時間穿梭只能在意識形態中出現,這一流派用比較哲學的角度來證明他們的觀點,他們認為就算是發生了時間穿梭,比如當 你到達30年前,對於你所接觸的一切如土壤、空氣、陽光來說你都是不存在的,因為在時間這個維度上你不會與它們有交集。你遇見30年前的母親,她觸碰你時 不過是一團虛空,因為在她的時間點上你連分子都還沒有!所以即便你真的發生穿梭,兩個時間點上的事物終究無法感知。所以時間旅行只可能出現在意識形態中, 意識流的形態出現。405的時間穿梭無疑是對這一流派理論的完美解釋,但我沒有想到lost的編劇會將不同時間理論流派的觀念一併包容!)所以其實迷失的 編劇老早就已經給我們以暗示,迷失最終的走向會包容科幻元素!當然,最終的真相之路,依然漫漫而修遠!
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題眼之二——關於daniel的一切




1.身份懸迷。



Daniel的身份在這一集中愈發地迷離,從第四季一開篇他淚流滿面地注視widmore所創造的815假像,到日後對小島毒氣站的瞭解,再到他 對於意識流時間旅行的研究,以及這一季開篇的神秘出場都使這個人物的身份充滿了懸疑色彩。話說編劇給四人小組每人都設有玄機,與幕後大有關係的dan、充 當出島第一要素的飛行員、miles詐騙ben的100多萬美金、夏洛特若隱若現的尋親目的。而這一集中我們正式發現他與widmore早已經是老牌合作 夥伴,那他四人小組的入選也就理所應當,而我們也看見了那個可憐的女子——Teresa。



2.Teresa。



讓我們感到興奮的遠不是那個近乎植物人的女子,(雖然長的挺漂亮)而是Teresa這個名字本身。在第一季中boone在6歲時的保姆也叫 Teresa,這兩個人之間有沒有聯繫?迷失中任何風吹草動都可能是彩蛋!近乎風聲鶴唳的我們自然要鑽研一番,不過個人認為這個女子與boone的保姆並 沒有什麼關係。首先是兩人的結局不同,在boone的口中他的保姆已經斷脖而死,這也是給他造成的陰影一直揮之不去的原因。而這集中的Teresa很明顯 處於意識流時間旅行的失控狀態,只不過還沒有致命。其次,根據年齡推算兩者的時間並不符合,根據lostpedia boone在飛機墜毀的時候年齡 22,保姆墜樓的事情發生於16年前;而dan接受widmore的資助僅為10年時間,也就是說當dan的實驗發生事故時,保姆Teresa早已經入土 已久了!更不可能還躺在床上不知神游何方。



3.氫彈。



這一劇情的出現顯示了編劇強大的資訊借用能力,就好像大家都樂於韋小寶與康熙的趣事也鍾情于項少龍生出項羽的逸聞,將虛構的故事與歷史結合總是讓 人樂此不疲。50年代美國軍方在太平洋小島上實驗氫彈的歷史被融合了進來,說到氫彈實驗,大家恐怕都會想到比基尼島那個爆炸了人類第一顆原子彈的小島。日 後三點式泳裝的面世在服裝界引發了劇烈的爆炸效果,其轟動性被認為不亞於原子彈的威力!所以三點式泳裝也被冠以比基尼的名稱以資紀念。而第一顆氫彈則是在 1952年11月1日,在太平洋馬紹爾群島的埃盧蓋拉布小島首次爆炸試驗成功的。但咱們小島上這顆氫彈怎麼來的不是重點,它到哪裡去了才是最大的問題。



這顆氫彈有以下幾個特點:



第一,已經發生洩漏。



第二,從體積上來看,這顆氫彈應該和1952年11月試驗的氫彈是同一類型,採用的是液體重氫和三重氫“溫式燃料”。因為使用這種材料的特點就是 氫彈體積大,難以實用。由此帶來的好消息是這顆氫彈威力不及54年爆炸的“幹式”氫彈,而且因為沒有外層鈾殼不會形成致命的“死灰”,但壞消息是溫式燃料 的輻射性依然可以弄死一島人。




第三,這顆氫彈已經存在了一定時間。這不禁讓人想起那個炸飛的倉體,首先,這個倉體地下部分全部是由混凝土澆築而成,(想起了為切爾諾貝利核電站建造的“石棺”)。其次,dan數次強調深埋於地下,倉體的建造格局符合要求。



第四,而且即便是ben推動輪盤釋放能量時也沒有發生爆炸效果,而des轉動鑰匙後整個倉體都炸飛了(還記得那個從天而降的門麼?)



所以我不禁懷疑是不是TO或是日後到來的達摩組織通過某種方式將氫彈改裝,與小島上本身所具有的神秘力量想聯繫起來,從而達到一個整體的平衡,解除危險。這麼說的原因是因為若是氫彈真的在倉體中且最終爆炸,那為何在倉中數人一人未死,des還獲得了穿越時空的能力?



4.母親。



關於dan的母親可謂是眾說紛紜,而這一集中dan母親也通過des線索開始逐漸成為台前亮線。現在有兩個猜測比較主流。第一,“白髮魔女”也就 是神奇老太太Eloise Hawking是dan母親的可能性頗大。其次,本集中出現的ellie讓人遐想,她會不會就是年輕時的 Eloise Hawking?編劇還是給了很多資訊。



首先,dan做實驗的小白鼠也叫做Eloise。



其次,ellie是Eloise的一種昵稱。



第三,dan聲稱ellie象一個人但此人並非女友,排除象Teresa的可能。(因為很明顯Teresa與dan是愛情關係,不論是親昵的照片 還是姐姐奇怪地態度,還有聲稱dan遺棄妹妹沒有道德的情感發洩)同時也排除夏洛特的可能,那麼這個人物很有可能是des尋找的dan之母。



於是我們不禁要猜測ellie莫非就是“白髮魔女”Eloise Hawking在五十年前的樣子?因為很明顯Hawking與小島有莫大的關 系,而且她在des“夢幻時空”中神般的地位,還有ben對其畢恭畢敬的態度,都與ellie想吻合。同時dan的父親是誰又成為了全新的疑點。這個人恐 怕也會與小島有關,更重要的是若以上推論都成立,那我們又可以從她和widmore身上窺見TO不老的一些特點。這一點會在題眼四論述。
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題眼之三——關於locke的一切




1.與richard的第一次親密接觸。



至此richard和locke小時候第一次親密接觸的謎題正式宣告大白,謎底依然是——時間!同時上一集中richard在黑夜中尋找 locke並聲稱“白光過後是你消失了”的疑團也在此煙消雲散,編劇設置了一個在科幻作品中並不少見的時間迴圈,但對於richard讓locke抓鬮的 情節依然懸念不明。若真的是想選擇小島的領袖,這樣的方式是不是過於草率?若是試圖讓locke認出指南針,即便是沒有什麼時間理論知識的人也知道哪時的 locke根本不可能比其他的孩子對指南針有更多的興趣。也只能說,在這場抓鬮活動開始的那一霎那,locke的命運走向了截然不同的道路,而也正是這樣 的道路反過來又促成了他命運走向了這個方向,時間的迴圈!



2.悖論,又見悖論!



記得在405那一集的分析中我提到小白鼠出現了一個悖論,在des找到dan時小白鼠還不會走迷宮,dan準備在若干個小時後教小白鼠走迷宮。隨 後進行輻射出現時空跳躍白鼠獲取了穿越迷宮的能力,那等到若干個小時後dan還需要教白鼠如何走迷宮麼?即便dan依然進行教這個活動,那白鼠頭腦中對於 迷宮的知識是哪裡來的?



同樣的情況發生于本集中,在時間跳躍後richard給locke治傷並給予指南針,而locke回到50年前將指南針還給richard,期間richard又手持這個指南針進行了抓鬮隨後又給了locke,那這個指南針又是從那裡來的呢?





3.領袖?棋子?



在本集中,locke儼然已經是一副小島宗主的架勢,不論是面對逃跑widmore時“他是我的子民”的“我主宣言”,還是對richard數次 提到身為領袖的地位。但是我現在卻不禁要懷疑locke這樣的領導者地位,命運就是這樣,很多時候海水與火焰不過是一牆之隔。當年Locke和jack發 生分歧而選擇相信小島,同時還出現了一大批追隨者,但這批追隨者卻被小島抑或命運送上了全滅的不歸路。Locke成為小島的形象代言,授命完成豐功偉業, 但結局依然是棺材中屍體一具。此時我們不禁要質疑他是天命之人還是棋子一顆?用完過後便隨手捨棄?其實fate遠沒有常人想像的那般慈眉善目,當他撕下溫 情脈脈的面紗,我們才會發現,其卑鄙與猙獰,far beyond your imagination!